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Title: Shooter injuries from compensated weapons
Post by: Scott Doyle on June 16, 2004, 08:32:50 PM

Shooter injuries from compensated weapons started by Jerry Potter
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Posted by: Jerry Potter on Mar. 01 2004,13:35

We are anticipating changing to compensated weapons department wide.  We are looking for any study or knowledge of shooter injuries incurred from compensated weapons (eye injuries, burns, etc.)  Thanks for any help.

Title: Shooter injuries from compensated weapons
Post by: pdrcaunt on June 17, 2004, 11:09:54 PM

I have no hard data to offer, but as someone who has built and shot compensated pistols, a concern comes to mind.  The effects of muzzle gas on officers nearby to the shooter need to be studied.  I am thinking in particular of close quarters incidents, like room entry teams.  The added muzzle blast might be very disruptive, and (in the case of lead bullets anyway) small bullet fragments may be ejected in a direction other than downrange.

Title: Shooter injuries from compensated weapons
Post by: Chris Monturo on June 18, 2004, 08:10:23 PM

Scott,

the only concern i can think of would be the blinding effect of the muzzle flash concentrated right where the officer is looking.  the better quality duty ammo has flash suppressants in it, but there is still flash.  I would try one of the compensated guns vs. a standard barrel in a dark range with duty amo and see how much flash you get.

regards,
chris

Title: Shooter injuries from compensated weapons
Post by: Mark Keisler on June 23, 2004, 08:35:17 AM

Scott:

Big Mistake.  Avoid compensated pistols for duty use at all costs.  I am a Sergeant with the Indiana State Police and a member of the Superintendents Ammunition and Firearms Selection Committee.  All firearms and ammunition purchased or considered for purchase are tested and evaluated by this committee.  In my opinion the blinding effect of the muzzle blast straight up into the officers' field of vision (especially at night) is so detrimental that it outweighs any benefit which you may think you get with felt recoil.

Title: Shooter injuries from compensated weapons
Post by: Scott Doyle on June 23, 2004, 11:28:44 AM

It wasn't me!!  I just transferred this post from the old public message board.  I didn't start the post.

Thanks for commenting though!

Title: Shooter injuries from compensated weapons
Post by: Chris Monturo on June 23, 2004, 12:19:51 PM

seriously, scott.  i think it's a bad idea.  i'll be happy to talk to KSP about alternatives.  do you have a contact number?

Title: Shooter injuries from compensated weapons
Post by: TL Price on June 29, 2004, 01:55:55 PM

Scott I would have to agree, it is a poor idea... :(

Title: Shooter injuries from compensated weapons
Post by: Scott Doyle on June 29, 2004, 02:02:23 PM

Thanks, I'll pass on the recommendations!

 :shock:

Title: Shooter injuries from compensated weapons
Post by: Chris Monturo on June 29, 2004, 03:44:33 PM

Good to hear, Scott.  Muzzle flash is no laughing matter.