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Author Topic: Assorted headstamp questions  (Read 146384 times)

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Offline Axel Manthei

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Re: 9mm Luger Headstamp
« Reply #90 on: February 05, 2009, 01:28:05 PM »
Tori,

I have a box with a few rounds of this variation (dot between the B and the 9).
It was sold it in a Walmart in Tucson, Sept 2008 and has a 115 gr FMJ bullet.
If you need anything specific please let me know.
Aaron and I spend most of these round on the steel targets at his club match.  O0

If the arrangement on the headstamp is the same as with SPEER
it indicates that the cartridge case is made by Federal for CCI/ Blazer

For details on the BLAZER BRASS See the information on the BLAZER ammo from the 2009 brochure (handed out at SHOT Show2009).

Compliments of the ammo database www.CartWinPro.com ;)

Greetings

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Re: 9mm Luger Headstamp
« Reply #91 on: February 05, 2009, 05:38:31 PM »
Chris,

My boss has kept me too busy to do much on the forum lately.  I'm glad to see that you took up the slack on that though.

The BLAZER headstamp is in reply 101 in the thread, and I bought the box that I posted the headstamp from at a local gun shop sometime in 2008.

Please note that the photo I posted is 40 S&W and does not have a dot.  I am reposting the headstamp below to save others from looking through the long thread that it was in.

Richard
« Last Edit: February 05, 2009, 11:11:11 PM by Richard Hitchcox »
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Re: 9mm Luger Headstamp
« Reply #92 on: February 06, 2009, 07:16:25 AM »
My understanding is that the CCI line is only rimfire now, so the days of CCI Blazer are over.

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Re: 9mm Luger Headstamp
« Reply #93 on: February 06, 2009, 01:43:36 PM »
Bob,

I am not completely certain about this.
In the BLAZER catalogue are BLAZER rimfires listed ....
(see enclosed part of the 2009 catalogue)

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Axel

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Re: 9mm Luger Headstamp
« Reply #94 on: February 06, 2009, 02:18:36 PM »
It seems they may just be restructuring and calling things by different names now.  CCI appears to be rimfire only like Bob mentioned.  The exception to this being centerfire shotshells in various calibers and primers.  The old CCI Blazer line now seems to be the Blazer Ammo line.

www.cci-ammunition.com/default.aspx

www.blazer-ammo.com/blazer_brass.aspx

It is interesting that the contact information for Blaser Brass is still that of CCI/Speer.

Richard
« Last Edit: February 06, 2009, 02:24:14 PM by Richard Hitchcox »
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Re: 9mm Luger Headstamp
« Reply #95 on: February 06, 2009, 04:30:34 PM »
Wow.  Thanks everyone!  I really appreciate all of the info.

Tori
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223 Rem Cartridge Case Mfg
« Reply #96 on: February 23, 2009, 06:10:15 PM »
Just need a little help with the mfg of this cartridge case...haven't seen it before.  I just know when I come in to work in the morning, there'll be an answer!
Steve Scott

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Re: 223 Rem Cartridge Case Mfg
« Reply #97 on: February 23, 2009, 06:18:42 PM »
Steve,

An internet source lists it as Harcord Manufacturing Company Inc., Jersey City, NJ.  However, I have not verified that information through authoritative sources such as George Kass' headstamp guide or CartWinPro.

I will be out of the office tomorrow, but I'm sure someone else will look it up and get back to you.

Richard
« Last Edit: February 23, 2009, 06:26:06 PM by Richard Hitchcox »
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Re: 223 Rem Cartridge Case Mfg
« Reply #98 on: February 24, 2009, 12:16:39 AM »
Ian Hogg's Cartridge Guide says same.
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Re: 223 Rem Cartridge Case Mfg
« Reply #99 on: February 24, 2009, 06:19:27 AM »
Steve,

I am afraid it is not Harcord Mfg.

Accoring to my information (what I have seen) it is

HMC = Hornady Mfg. Co
- believed to be made by Barnaul
- sold by Hornady as Hornady #9760EL "75 gr BTHP Training" (the headstamp pictured in our database)
- plain white box with a Hornady lable sticking on the end flap of the box.
- laquered steel case
Note: there is a slightly different HMC headstamp without the decimal and a space between the 223 and the REM. / Seen in 2007

The cartridge and box are i.e. shown here:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=119810946#PIC


Greetings

Axel

It took CartWinPro ~16 seconds to find it in its database (of 15.000 headstamps since yesterday!).
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Re: 223 Rem Cartridge Case Mfg
« Reply #100 on: February 24, 2009, 07:22:15 AM »
Thanks to all
Steve Scott

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Assorted headstamp questions
« Reply #101 on: March 13, 2009, 09:15:48 AM »
The attached image is in the AFTE headstamp gallery, but no information about what it is!  I believe 71 is a Chinese factory code, but I'd like to confirm.  Can someone help me out?
« Last Edit: March 13, 2009, 09:20:53 AM by Alison Quereau »
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Offline M. L. Cooper

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Re: Headstamp help
« Reply #102 on: March 13, 2009, 09:27:17 AM »
Here is some information although not too helpful
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Re: Headstamp help
« Reply #103 on: March 13, 2009, 09:29:29 AM »
Sorry the image didn't go through I'll try again
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Re: Headstamp help
« Reply #104 on: March 13, 2009, 09:34:50 AM »
Alison,

According to CartWinPro the 71 is for a Chinese factory on that particular headstamp.  However, there are other 71 headstamps in different layouts or designs (some letters or symbols added or the 71 in a different location) that are not Chinese.  I emailed you some info that you might want to include in your case folder.

Richard

btw - CartWinPro is a very useful resource that I feel is well worth the cost.
« Last Edit: March 13, 2009, 09:45:53 AM by Richard Hitchcox »
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