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Offline bsaidel

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Head stamp identified need
« on: September 11, 2008, 10:17:05 AM »
Hello,
In the course of archaeological excavations at site in the Negev desert, Israel, we bagged and tagged a cartridge (see attached photos).  Although this cartridge has been cleaned I am not able to read the headstamp. I was wondering if anyone in the forum could read the headstamp. I believe that this cartridge is for a .303 Lee-Enfield. Any help in its identification 10485-0would be appreciated. Lastly, could anyone recommend a good source of information for the use of Lee-Enfields by the Egyptian army?
Many Thanks.
Benjamin

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Re: Head stamp identified need
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2008, 11:00:01 AM »
Benjamin,

use some rubber (used for pencil) to clean the head stamp.
Maybe this will show up a bit more of it.

Greetings

Axel

Offline bsaidel

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Re: Head stamp identified need
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2008, 11:01:55 AM »
Hi Axel,
Thanks for the suggestion. I know it is rough shape.
Thanks
Benjamin

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Re: Head stamp identified need
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2008, 11:49:57 AM »
Tabasco sauce is an option . . . no I'm not kidding.

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Re: Head stamp identified need
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2008, 12:21:56 PM »
A coworker of mine is a retired US Marine who specializes in Middle Eastern languages and currently moonlights as an Intelligence Translator.

He took a look and didn't see anything he could read.  He'd like to see it cleaned up a bit more.
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Offline bsaidel

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Re: Head stamp identified need
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2009, 05:18:43 PM »
Update
Attached is a photograph of the headstamp after I cleaned it with lemon juice and tobasco sauce. 
THe head stamp appears to read:
K10
VII

From what I have found on the internet, K could refer to Kynoch in the United Kingdom. Does the "10" refer to 1910?  Does anyone know how to determine when this cartridge was manufactured?
Thanks Benjamin



Hello,
In the course of archaeological excavations at site in the Negev desert, Israel, we bagged and tagged a cartridge (see attached photos).  Although this cartridge has been cleaned I am not able to read the headstamp. I was wondering if anyone in the forum could read the headstamp. I believe that this cartridge is for a .303 Lee-Enfield. Any help in its identification (Attachment Link) would be appreciated. Lastly, could anyone recommend a good source of information for the use of Lee-Enfields by the Egyptian army?
Many Thanks.
Benjamin

Offline Axel Manthei

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Re: Head stamp identified need
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2009, 04:41:44 AM »
Benjamin,

the bullet type VII (7) ball came into being in 1910.
K is definitely Kynoch.
K10 is not a know manufacturer number, so the two digits are very likely a year abbrevation.
1910 seems to be VERY early... Could it be a 16 or 18?

Greetings

Axel

Offline Bill Wheatley

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Re: Head stamp identified need
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2009, 06:17:28 AM »
Axel,

I agree, that looks like an 8 to me.

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Offline bsaidel

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Re: Head stamp identified need
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2009, 03:12:14 PM »
Hello Axel and Bill
Thanks for taking a look at the headstamp.  I agree with, the 0, looks more like an 8.
Best wishes,
Benjamin

 

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