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Offline Eric Warren

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Re: New Headstamps (part 2)
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2015, 01:46:19 PM »

It was mentioned in the forums (http://www.afte.org/forum/smf1/index.php?topic=9503.msg59338) that Underwood loads LeHigh bullets in their cartridges with their headstamp.  But here is a recently purchased box with Starline headstamps.


Also, Richard's post above with the RattleSnake Ammo, has a different headstamp than mine.

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Re: New Headstamps (part 2)
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2015, 01:57:28 PM »
Here are some shotgun headstamps I've seen recently.

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Re: New Headstamps (part 2)
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2015, 11:28:39 AM »
ASYM Precision Ammunition

26726-0

26728-1

26730-2

26732-3
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Re: New Headstamps (part 2)
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2015, 11:33:43 AM »
Yavex Ammunition

26734-0

26736-1

26738-2

26740-3

A different variation of the Winchester WMA headstamp

26742-4

26744-5

26746-6

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Re: New Headstamps (part 2)
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2015, 09:29:20 AM »
Comparison of 9mm Luger Remington headstamps
26762-0
The new headstamp on the left indicates the round was loaded in "Lonoke 2" (the new section of the facility), while the headstamp on the right indicates the round was loaded in the original section of the facility.  The picture doesn't illustrate the rounding of the headstamp edge on the Lonoke 2 round versus the straight edge of the original round.  Also note the dot between the P and the end of LUGER.
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Re: New Headstamps (part 2)
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2015, 09:35:00 AM »
These are great, guys.  Thanks and keep 'em coming!  As soon as the HSG is migrated over to the new website, these will be added.
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Re: New Headstamps (part 2)
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2016, 06:25:16 PM »
I just got this ammo in.  It is apparently made by Truelove & Maclean (http://www.trueloveandmaclean.com/components/) who also makes 380 Auto according to their website.  And at least early on, they supplied brass with an unlabeled headstamp: https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/odd-9x19mm-headstamp/16940

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Re: New Headstamps (part 2)
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2018, 08:58:32 PM »
For the Headstamp guide

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Re: New Headstamps (part 2)
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2021, 10:54:18 AM »
I think Target Sports Ammunition

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Re: New Headstamps (part 2)
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2021, 04:41:05 PM »
I received a bundle of these FCCs for NIBIN recently.


Doing a search it seems like is possibly from norma or one of the RUAG companies.


https://pinevalleymunitions.com/product/5-56-nato-77-grain-smk/


Site above specifically mentions "new brass from Norma" with a headstamp of AMTC or Norma. If you go through the photos, there is one picture with the AMTC headstamp.


https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/amtc-5-56x45mm-h-s-ruag-ammotec-usa-inc-not-amtech/43542


IAA seems split on the issue, but norma seems to be under RUAG if you scroll down the bottom of this page: https://www.ruag.com/en/products-services/land


Seems like this would support it could be from norma.

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Re: New Headstamps (part 2)
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2021, 07:22:57 AM »
Came across these and didn't see them on here or on the headstamp guide. Quick search found their firearms (https://www.sarsilmaz.com/en/) but I didn't find much about the ammunition.
Edited to add "SAR" headstamp for searching.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2021, 12:51:05 PM by Kelsey Cramer »
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Re: New Headstamps (part 2)
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2021, 02:06:07 PM »
Submitting a new to me headstamp that I could not find in the headstamp guide.  I came across this "VNM 20 9P" headstamp in casework.  A Google search led me to the forum feed on IAA's site detailing their research into Medef Defense Ltd's Venom cartridge out of Turkey (https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/venom-9x19-ammo-steel-case-arrived/41225).  Packaging information is included on that forum feed...I don't have packaging info to share.

See attached headstamp examples. 

Noticed some strange manufacturing defects across the primer (hand loaded brass??), and a red case mouth sealant.   But what is really cool is the manufacturing marks around the characters of the headstamp on the unfired example.  The cartridge cases were loaded with a brass jacketed FMJ round nose bullet, slightly concave base.  All components non-magnetic.  Again, not sure if these are factory loaded or hand loaded (seem a little sloppy to be factory loaded).
« Last Edit: May 04, 2021, 02:08:12 PM by Marah Carney »

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Re: New Headstamps (part 2)
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2021, 04:14:43 PM »
Marah,

this looks like a reloaded cartridge with a primer punch mark & a mark from the shell holder.
Greetings
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« Last Edit: May 04, 2021, 04:18:09 PM by Axel Manthei »

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Re: New Headstamps (part 2)
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2021, 03:15:13 PM »
Marah,

Thanks for posting about the VNM headstamp. It has now been added to the Headstamp Guide.

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Re: New Headstamps (part 2)
« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2021, 09:02:25 AM »
This ammunition brand is owned by Yavaşçalar Troy Savunma Sanayi A.Ş. in Turkey and distributed in the US by Yavaşçalar Troy Holding LLC in Mulberry, Florida. Website: http://www.troypro.us/

 

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