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Author Topic: New Headstamps  (Read 350877 times)

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Offline David Wright

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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2006, 12:58:56 PM »
Thanks Ashely!

This headstamp can now be viewed in the "Letter I" section of the Headstamp Guide.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2006, 01:01:59 PM by David Wright »
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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2006, 11:56:45 AM »
Hello All,

I am currently scraping through a bunch of ammo that was donated to the lab and I stumbled upon a caliber that I was not familiar with.

Federal headstamp 356 TS&W caliber. 

Blue Book of Gun Values says that the Model 3566 were manufactured by S&W Performance Center to fire the 356 TS&W cartridge. In metric terms the cartridge is 9x21.5mm.

Obviously at one time Federal produced cartridges for this caliber but currently Starline Brass is the only manufacturer that I could find that currently produces cases for the 356 TS&W.  The following is what the Starline website stated about the caliber.

"356 TS&W - Essentially a 9mm based case with O.A.L. Of .848. Gun system produced by Smith & Wesson Performance Center. This case can easily be formed into 30 luger."

Just thought I would share.

CMC

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Re: Help ID Headstamp
« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2006, 10:08:59 AM »
I recently ran into some old ammo specimens that were hidden away in our lab system and came across the "VF" headstamp pictured below.  Packaged with the 22 LR cartridge is a photocopy of a Navy Arms Co. ammo box.  The back of the box is marked "Made in Mexico by industrias-Tecnos, s.a.de c.v."

I suppose the manufacturer is clear, but any ideas what the "VF" stands for?

Thanks,
David Wright
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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2006, 10:34:49 AM »
David,

Val Forgett is the founder of Navy Arms Company, so the "VF" headstamp may be his initials.  However, this is only a guess.  Navy Arms should be able to provide a definitive answer though.  I sent them an email and will post any reply I may receive.

Richard
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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2006, 10:53:59 AM »
Thanks Richard...that's very interesting information.
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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2006, 01:10:57 PM »
"VF" are for Val Forgette Jr. Owner of Navy Arms Co. of Ridgefield, New Jersey

Ammo made by Industrias Tecnos, S.A. de C.V. Cuernavaca, Mor., Mexico. 

Dates 1983- present (I don't know how old this info is and when present is)

Reference: Kass

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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2006, 01:17:05 PM »
I just got off the phone with customer service at Navy Arms and was told that the VF stands for Val Forgett, founder of Navy Arms.

The lady said that the VF headstamp would only be on old ammunition (no definition of old given).  She said that they have merged with Old Western Scrounger, and all current headstamps will simply be OWS.  She also said they are currently located in Martinsburg, WV.

Richard
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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2006, 04:54:11 PM »
Here is a headstamp that was found in our random mix of 22 shorts.
It's made for Montgomery Wards Stores, Made by Federal.  I didn't see it in the gallery so I thought I would submitt it for addition.  I also found a great page for other rimfire headstamps.

http://members.shaw.ca/cstein0/usrim.htm

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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2007, 05:24:24 PM »
Winchester 22WRF "Limited Edition"

Made in USA by Olin Corp.
East Alton, IL 62024

« Last Edit: May 03, 2007, 05:33:43 PM by Ashely Northcutt »
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Offline Michele Eichenmiller

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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2007, 02:08:52 PM »
Hello all!
I have a headstamp that I could not find in any of the resources available at our lab or on the Internet.  I thought I would utilize the membership for some help!!!  This isn't pertinent to our case but just a "gotta-know" thing!

Thanks in advance  :)

Michele  :)
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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2007, 03:29:49 PM »
My guess is either Santa Barbara Spain or Seller & Belliot Czech.
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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2007, 06:33:23 PM »
SB       Arms Corporation of the Philippines, (formally Squires Bingham Co.) Marikina, Republic of the Philippines
 
SB       Empresa Nacional Santa Barbara de Industrias Militares SA, Toledo, Spain
 
SB       Israeli Military Industries, Tel Aviv, Israel
 
SB       Sellier and Bellot, Schoenbeck/Elbe, Germany
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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2007, 08:08:42 PM »
From the appearance I would go for Santa Barbera/ Spain.

The Squire Bingham, Schönebeck and S&B/D I have see so far look different.

Bill, it is Schönebeck  ... not Schoenebeck ;D

See you in San Francisco!

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Offline Michele Eichenmiller

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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2007, 09:17:59 AM »
Thanks all for your help!  It verifies all the possible manufacturers that I found in our resources!

Have fun in CA!   O0
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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #44 on: May 25, 2007, 06:57:16 PM »
7.62x39 Ball ammunition, for US commercial market, "Cheetah" line, from Zimbabwe Defense Industries Africa, gilding metal jacketed, lead core projectile, brass case, headstamp 97 ZI, red primer sealant, brass percussion primer, 3-stab primer crimp.
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