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Distance Determination Information Needed

Started by Kimberly James, July 18, 2023, 08:13:01 AM

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Kimberly James

Hi All,
I am in need of some feedback and would appreciate any info you would be willing to share.


1.) Is your lab ACCREDITED via ANAB for distance determination? If yes...
2.) What measurement process do you use such as (laser, tape measure, or other)
3.) Did you run our own stats and complete the Uncertainty Budget in-house or did you hire someone?


If this is better posted as a Poll, happy to do so.


Many thanks,
Kim James
Maine State Crime Laboratory
Kimberly James
Forensic Scientist-RETIRED

Holli Worden

Yes (ANAB Accredited), we did uncertainty of measurement using a tape measure and completed the stats in-house.

Loandra Pellot-Vazquez

ANAB accredited, we use a laser for measurements, and the uncertainty of measurement was completed in-house.
Loandra (Loly) Pellot
Tarrant County Medical Examiner's Office
Fort Worth, TX

"Justice is sometimes pictured as blindfolded. However, scientific evidence usually pierces the mask." -Wilmer Souder

Justine Kreso

#3
ANAB accredited, laser, and in-house UM.  The stats aren't too difficult and you can use the same template that you do for barrel/overall length.
Justine Kreso
Onondaga County Center for Forensic Sciences
Syracuse, NY

Richard Rotella

#4
For SWIFS in Dallas County:


       
  • Yes ANAB Accredited
  • Leica Laser with a panel that the muzzle of the gun goes through to allow for measuring off to the side of the firearm
  • U of M was done in-house

Julie Knapp

same with Richard for Colorado Bureau of Investigation.

Russ Karsten

Same as Julie for labs within the Michigan State Police.
Michigan State Police
Grand Rapids Laboratory
Firearm & Toolmarks Unit

Steve Ostrowski


We are not ANAB accredited in GSR/DD.  We chose to remove it from our scope 2 cycles ago.  However, we still perform the traditional work. 

We issue standard lab reports but on alternate letterhead without ANAB logo.  We also add this disclaimer to report verbiage:  "Please note, gunshot residue examinations are not covered under the Forensic Laboratory's scope of accreditation."
Steve Ostrowski
NHSP Forensic Lab
33 Hazen Dr.  Concord, NH 03305  
ph. 603.223.8352
stephen.h.ostrowski@dos.nh.gov

Kimberly James

Thank you all for the replies.  Happy to see more if others are willing.


I appreciate the speedy information.


Kim
Kimberly James
Forensic Scientist-RETIRED

Dennis Lyons

Dennis J. Lyons
Rhode Island State Crime Lab
University of Rhode Island
41 Lower College Road
Kingston, R.I. 02881

Emily Bagwell

ANAB accredited. Tape measure. MU Budget done in-house.
Emily Bagwell
Technical Leader
Georgia Bureau of Investigation

Dan Alessio

ANAB accredited.  Laser (Leica DISTO X3).  UM in-house.

Kimberly James

Hi Again,
If anyone would be willing to send your U of M worksheet or data sheets for the process used for determining your uncertainty for use with a laser, it would be greatly appreciated. It is a big ask[size=78%].[/size]


Before our QM signs off on our planned process she wants to see what others did. 


If you would rather not post it here, please email me. 

Kimberly.d.james@maine.gov


Thank you!

Kimberly James
Forensic Scientist-RETIRED

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