Topic: Assorted headstamp questions

[Aaron T. Fullerton]

Thanks for the help everbody.  Any info is good stuff.  Sounds like Russia might be it. DShK is the primary firearm around here that fires 12.7, but that doesn't necessarily mean Russian ammo.  We see more Chinese and Eastern bloc stuff iin 12.7.  Richard, the headstamp is 310 over a two numeral year, nothing else.  Thanks again everybody.  Keep it coming.

Aaron

[Charles Clow]

What year is on the headstamp? Older or more recent?

CMC

[Aaron T. Fullerton]

Recent 2003   Headstamp is 310 over 03, steel case, brass primer with red sealant on the edge of the primer pocket only.

Aaron

[Allen Greenspan]

One of our crime scene detectives went to a suicide involving a victim that shot himself in the chest with a .45 Auto Glock.  The casing was still in the gun, and it is believed that the victim had his hand pushed against the rear of the slide preventing it from ejecting.  The question is: the headstamp is marked EXT  SHK  .45Auto.  Does anyone know the make of said cartridge.  Thanks in advance!

Allen

[Charles Clow]

That headstamp is from Extreme Shock Ammunition.

http://www.extremeshockusa.com/

CMC

[Allen Greenspan]

One of our crime scene detectives went to a suicide involving a .45 Auto Glock.  The casing was found in the firearm, and it was believed that the victim had placed the palm of his hand on the back of the slide preventing the casing from ejecting.  The headstamp was:  EXT    SHK    45 Auto

EXT from about 9:30 to 11, the SHK from about 1 to 3:30, and the 45 Auto between 7 and 5. 

This is how it was described to me, the evidence didnt come to the lab since it was a suicide.

Thanks for any help.

[Charles Clow]

The headstamp is from Extreme Shock Ammunition.

http://www.extremeshockusa.com/

CMC

[Jan De Ceuster]

As a little side remark I can add that for some suicides it is not unusual to find the casing in the firearm. If the victim does not hold the firearm firmly or in a "conventional" way, the energy that is normally used to extract the casing will for a great deal be dissipated in the movement of the hand/arm and ejection will not occur. He could also have held the front of the firearm with his other hand, hindering the slide to go rearward.

[Michael Haag]

Anyone with knowledge of either headstamp info or plant info from Middle Eastern Countries who would be willing to share, please contact me at:

 michael.haag@comcast.net

This info would be passed on to a Dept of State investigations team at a class I may be presenting in Iraq.

I have already collected info from the CartWin Pro database, so that is already covered.

mgh

[Richard Hitchcox]

Mike,

There is an AFTE Journal article regarding Middle Eastern headstamps.  It is Headstamps with Arabic Markings by Ahmed K. Al-Khalifa, 1983, Vol 15, #2, page 64.

Aaron Fullerton or Ed Love might be able to provide some updated information since they are both currently working in Iraq.  I'm sure they see their fair share of various types of Middle Eastern ammunition.

Richard

[Paul Murphy]

Hi Mike
I have a fairly good 7.62 x 39 headstamp list from Russ Cornell (probably the world's largest 7.62 x 39 h/s collector) - it includes a good amount of Middle Eastern Headstamps.  Contact me : paul.murphy@contactft.com
Paul Murphy

[Michael Haag]

I have been talking at length with Aaron.  Sounds like they are doing some cool work over there.
Maybe a presentation at AFTE Aaron?
mgh

[Dana Gicale]

Can anyone identify this headstamp?

It is a 5.56 Nato (M855) cartridge, but I have never seen this headstamp and we do not have one here at the lab.


Thanks!

[Richard Hitchcox]

Dana,

Is that "TAA   06" at the bottom of the headstamp?  I just want to make sure that I'm reading it correctly.

Richard

[Dana Gicale]

Yes,

  That is correct.  With a NATO symbol at the top.