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Head stamp identified need

Started by bsaidel, September 11, 2008, 10:17:05 AM

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bsaidel

Hello,
In the course of archaeological excavations at site in the Negev desert, Israel, we bagged and tagged a cartridge (see attached photos).  Although this cartridge has been cleaned I am not able to read the headstamp. I was wondering if anyone in the forum could read the headstamp. I believe that this cartridge is for a .303 Lee-Enfield. Any help in its identification [attach=#]would be appreciated. Lastly, could anyone recommend a good source of information for the use of Lee-Enfields by the Egyptian army?
Many Thanks.
Benjamin

Axel Manthei

Benjamin,

use some rubber (used for pencil) to clean the head stamp.
Maybe this will show up a bit more of it.

Greetings

Axel

bsaidel

Hi Axel,
Thanks for the suggestion. I know it is rough shape.
Thanks
Benjamin

Charles Clow

Tabasco sauce is an option . . . no I'm not kidding.

CMC

Bob Shem

A coworker of mine is a retired US Marine who specializes in Middle Eastern languages and currently moonlights as an Intelligence Translator.

He took a look and didn't see anything he could read.  He'd like to see it cleaned up a bit more.
Robert J. Shem, 4900 Buckingham Way., Anchorage, AK  99503, ph 907 952-2254, bobshem@alaskan.com

bsaidel

Update
Attached is a photograph of the headstamp after I cleaned it with lemon juice and tobasco sauce. 
THe head stamp appears to read:
K10
VII

From what I have found on the internet, K could refer to Kynoch in the United Kingdom. Does the "10" refer to 1910?  Does anyone know how to determine when this cartridge was manufactured?
Thanks Benjamin



Quote from: bsaidel on September 11, 2008, 10:17:05 AM
Hello,
In the course of archaeological excavations at site in the Negev desert, Israel, we bagged and tagged a cartridge (see attached photos).  Although this cartridge has been cleaned I am not able to read the headstamp. I was wondering if anyone in the forum could read the headstamp. I believe that this cartridge is for a .303 Lee-Enfield. Any help in its identification [attach=#]would be appreciated. Lastly, could anyone recommend a good source of information for the use of Lee-Enfields by the Egyptian army?
Many Thanks.
Benjamin

Axel Manthei

Benjamin,

the bullet type VII (7) ball came into being in 1910.
K is definitely Kynoch.
K10 is not a know manufacturer number, so the two digits are very likely a year abbrevation.
1910 seems to be VERY early... Could it be a 16 or 18?

Greetings

Axel

Bill Wheatley

Axel,

I agree, that looks like an 8 to me.

Bill
(908) 797-6553
factsgroup@comcast.net
wwheatley@essexsheriff.com
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bsaidel

Hello Axel and Bill
Thanks for taking a look at the headstamp.  I agree with, the 0, looks more like an 8.
Best wishes,
Benjamin